Saturday, May 22, 2010

Gun Toys RO71 Air Pistol Overhaul

Still working on the Haenal 303-Super, but I wanted a post that didn't involve sanding.

I found this locked in a cabinet at Precision Airgun a couple months ago. It's a Gun Toys brand RO71 .177 cal "match pistol" from Italy. They're occasionally also known as Panthers. I'd never seen or heard of the brand or the model before. If these guns are rare today, it's probably because they're made from diecast potmetal and brittle plastic and haven't survived. The barrel, mainspring, and a couple screws are about the only steel used in the gun.

This box is really cool.

Normally, when you find a NOS airgun with paperwork from 1975 you should be reaching for your wallet. Spoiler alert--this gun is one of the exceptions. Typically, I'd never bother to write a post about a gun this awful. The thing is, in the box, it looks like a decent gun. Even the match-type sights looked credible. Did I mention that the box is great? I decided to write this one up because there's zero information about it today save whatever single sentence is in the blue book. I paid very, very little money for this gun and if I had to do it over again, I'd have paid even less. Remember that I'm looking at this gun as a shooter, not simply as an item to fill out a collection.

Extra front sight inserts? They're possibly the only thing of value inside the box. I say "possibly", because you'd need another, better gun out there that can use the same size sight insert. The rear sight has 4 different sized rotating notches. It's dressed to impress. Sadly, under inspection, the plastic front sight housing has 2 hairline cracks in the plastic. The rear sight has 3 cracks. Some superglue filled the cracks.

I shot the gun a couple times and found that the trigger has about a 15 pound pull. Maybe even higher. You can lazily watch the pellet arc to the target 30 feet away. I didn't bother to chronograph it. It's well under 200 fps.

I held out a moment of hope that the gun would improve with a tune up.

The upper grip screws are sheet metal screws, the lower is a machined nut and bolt.

The rear sight has to come off next. Remove the circlip and unscrew the windage adjustment knob.

The two screws retaining the rear sight can now be removed. Take care to not lose the detent spring and tiny ball bearing that nest inside the head of the windage screw.

All the frame screws are removed,

and the barrel pivot nut and bolt.

The left-side half is lifted off like a clamshell.

Everything inside is zinc or aluminum; trigger, sear, cocking linkage, piston, spring guide...



Sear. Has a 7/32" ball bearing staked in place to hold back the piston. The piston has a corresponding bearing as well. I'd expect that the bearing-to-bearing design was supposed to provide a better trigger pull. Maybe it was just to prevent wear on aluminum to aluminum.

Trigger. The springs are very light. Nothing gained by replacing them.

The trigger and sear pivot pins are fixed in the right side clamshell.

Here's the entire power plant. It lifts right out.

The compression tube is aluminum. Inside are the piston, piston seal, mainspring and spring guide. It's about 4" long. There's a hollow tube at the rear that retains the spring.

White nylon spacer at the rear of the compression tube.

Transfer port at the front with an o-ring to seal against the front of the clamshell.

Need to remove the hollow pin to get the spring out. I need a pusher block to fit into the ID of the compression tube and take the spring pressure off the mainspring.

Here's a better view of the end of the compression tube. I need to knock out the cross pin (the hollow tube).

Faced a short section of 1" diameter acetal. Turned down one end to 0.835" to slip fit into the compression tube.

Set up the milling attachment on the Taig and cut a slot to clear the hollow tube.



Pusher block

Different views.

I think the plastic tool is cooler than the gun.



Snug fit, but it works. I cut the slot with an endmill that was about the same diameter as the pin.



Could've used the mighty spring compressor, but the low velocity tells me there's minimal preload. A cheap clamp gave the spring compression needed.

Used a transfer punch to push out the cross pin.

Really minimal preload.

Piston seal is synthetic. It's really soft. Almost rubbery. Not a trace of lube in the entire gun. Considered a stiffer spring or spacing it out, but the cocking linkage is a fragile casting and would likely fail. This gun seems designed from the ground up to be low powered and disposable.

Polished everything. Never seen an aluminum spring guide before.

I removed the casting lines on the face of the trigger.

And buffed the blade.

My favorite low velocity gun lube: Buzzy's Slick Honey. Gave all the parts a razor thin wipe. Added a thin nylon washer between the spring and the base of the guide.

Pressed it all back together and reseated the cross pin.

Checked the o-ring and gave it a wipe of Slick Honey.

Used a synthetic bearing grease from Castrol to lube the trigger, sear, cocking lever, cocking lever slot...

Reassembled in reverse. There's little improvement. The trigger is still lousy--the length of pull just never ends. To sum it up, the RO71 has no power, no accuracy, a horrible trigger, cracked plastic and way too much brittle potmetal--but the box is sweet.

Mainspring specs: 4-3/4" OAL. 0.610" OD. 0.097" diameter wire.

Spring guide: Tapered 0.379" base to 0.331" front end. Tapered section is 2.092" long. Guide is 2.398" OAL. Flange at base is 0.833"

Thursday, May 20, 2010

Haenel 303-Super--Still Stripping the Stock

Just a quick post. Been working at the job and neglecting the airguns this week. I've barely found time to sand a few more areas of the stock.

This is where the orbital sander got things.

Continued with the 100 grit garnet paper and hand sanded the rest of the varnish off.

It's pretty thin. It's all right on top of the wood--which is working in my favor for a change.

I do have a couple small detail sanders, they're out on loan to my sister.



Still unsure what to do with the factory stippling. I've got a few ideas I'm considering.



I left the Morgan buttpad decision up to Nick. He says to keep the factory pad since it's in perfect shape. I'll gladly defer to his opinion--especially since it means I don't have to do any additional fitting--or sanding.

I know what I want this stock to look like, I'm trying to figure out how to get there.

More soon.

Tuesday, May 18, 2010

Cleaning Up A Thrashed Diana Model 5 Pistol End Cap

Well I haven't entirely given up on the Diana/Gecado 5 as I do have a thrashed action I can rehab to fit.

The end cap was beat up so I decided to try cleaning it up.

First I chucked up some aluminum.

I turned some steps, only the front one matters although the other ones will be used to true it in the chuck if I need to use it again.

Setting the threading tool.

Interestingly enough, the thread seems to be 24 tpi, not metric.

Cap screws on.

I filed the radius and faced the front.

You can see it's a trifle messed up.

I removed a little bit at a time.

Until it was clean.

I then knurled it. I had to adjust the rollers again to get a full depth knurl. If I do it again I'll order slightly finer knurls as these were pretty coarse.

Not bad?

A little abrasive brushing removed the burs and such.

Friday, May 14, 2010

Haenel 303-Super Stripping the Stock Part 1

Acquired an old NIB Haenel 303-Super many months ago. It was made in East Germany. Haven't found time to go inside and tune the rifle yet. Heck, I've barely had time to shoot this one. It's got some issues as it sits. Tom Gaylord reviewed one of these guns a while back.

From several feet away it looks pretty good.

Up close, there's some damage to the finish from sitting in a box for 25+ years.

The stain and varnish(?) on both sides of the grip is gone.

The right side is worse. The double-line border around the stippling is also poorly done and non-existent in a few spots.

Cleaned out the stippling and the border with an old tooth brush.

Bought a set of Dem-Bart checkering tools a week ago.

Used a single line cutter and chased the existing lines to deepen and define the border.





Sanded out the bare spots in the finish. The finish was puddled at the edges. Maybe it was boxed before the finish had dried completely.



Did the same to the left side. Tried spot staining the bare wood, but couldn't get it to take enough color to match.

In the right light, at the right angle, this is a really nice piece of beech.





Pulled the action. You know what's next.

Yeah, I know. I'll ruin the collector value. Hey, these guns trade hands for all of about $300. Since I'm not likely to sell it, I'm the one who has to shoot it, and it's already less than perfect...

No going back now. See how easy and decisive this can be? 100 grit paper across the finish really has the sound of commitment.

Tip: Leave the buttpad installed. I thought about a Morgan adjustable pad. Maybe the plastic base model? I'm waffling. The stock pad is marked "SUHL" and it's pretty cool. Though, it is hard plastic....Still waffling.

With the majority of the finish stripped off, here's what's lurking below.

This grain has some real potential. I'm going to try a chemical stripper on the stippling. If that's a no-go, I'll attempt to recreate the Haenel stippling technique. Looks like it was tapped into the wood. I may try a Dremel tool with a small ball mill as it seems to produce a similar appearance. Hopefully, it won't come to that.

More to come in a couple days.