Sunday, February 13, 2011

Crosman 22XX 88g AirSource Adapter--Part 3

Took a few measurements while sitting in front of the TV with my wife. Not sure that counts as quality time with her. Probably not.

Wanted to get the ID of the 2240's gas tube. Measured the OD of the Crosman valve body, too.

Thought about making the valve connector from brass, but since the tank will act as a forend, I elected to use a piece of 12L14 steel instead. This is a "free machining" cold rolled steel. It's inexpensive and machines beautifully.

Just over two inches of 0.750" diameter rod was faced and a light skim cut taken to reduce the OD slightly so it would slide inside the gas tube.

Turned one end down to 0.561".

Through drilled the piece with a 5/32" bit. This will allow CO2 from the brass tank block made previously to get to the Crosman valve.

Threaded 9/16"-18.

With a parting tool in the back tool post, I cut a relief at the end of the thread for an o-ring. Forgot to write down the groove depth, but I believe it was 0.464".

Cut the thread to final length. Chamfered the first thread for good measure.

This is the o-ring Crosman specs to seal the 22XX valve body halves.

Test fit.

Flipped the piece and need to do the same procedure again. Turned the end down to 0.561"...

Threaded with the same die. Ah, yes. The new 1.5" die holder makes its debut.



Forgot to mention this earlier--used a 1-2-3 block to square the parting tool on the carriage.

After I cut the o-ring groove at the base of the thread as before, I parted off the excess thread length.

Then spotted and drilled a counterbore.

This counterbore acts as a seat for the valve spring. I made it just slightly deeper than the original in the Crosman valve. Chamfered the through hole.

The finished valve connector.

Test assembly time.

Block and valve connector tube threaded together. The spring, valve stem and brass rear valve half are the stock Crosman 22XX items.

By drilling that counterbore, I'm able to use the stock valve stem without any further modification--ususally, the piercing pin is cut off.

Test fit.

Impossible. Absolutely impossible.

Hand tight and the bottom of the Crosman valve is almost aligned with the bottom of the A/S adapter. A 5/32 rod in the transfer port as a handle, final torque and it's correctly aligned. I assumed (for good reason) that I'd either have to shave down the rear valve half or plug the transfer port and redrill. There's just no way that the valve should bolt into the gun and the tank block will actually be centered underneath the gun correctly without some rather tedious fitting.

The 2240 gas tube is shown above. The gas tube has to be shortened up front by a couple inches.

In the first pic of this post, I noted that the connector tube had to be at least 2.050" long--that was the minimum that would allow the grip frame to still attach to the gas tube and the tank block to clear the front of the grip frame.

Stripped the sticker off the A/S. Hope to paint the tank in the morning.

No leaks.

Still need to shorten the gas tube and anchor the valve more securely. One more post in a couple days.

6 comments:

Marcelo Cerdán said...

Realy nice build! What is the shot count with a 88 gram CO2 tank?

derrick38 said...

Marcelo,
As of right now, I don't know. A lot will depend on hammer spring vs. valve spring tensions, valve volume (I went for a bit more than stock), my ability to get a good fill on the tank, etc. If I get around 225, I'll be happy. In theory, it's possible to get about 300 shots.

Brassbanjo said...

Very interesting, what a great site!

I am very curious about how you managed to stop the work piece spinning in the chuck when you were using the die - is it just a case of cranking down hard on the chuck key?

When I tried to produce a similar thread, the amount of force needed to cut the thread was such that I feared it was going to damage the lathe (I should add this was also using a die with a small lathe, power off, using levers). Any tips appreciated!

derrick38 said...

brass,
You're on the money about the work slipping with such relatively large coarse threads. I started the thread by hand turning the lathe enough to get the thread alignment then transferred the work (leaving the die still attached to the workpiece) into a bench vise with soft jaws. Clamped a die handle and finished the thread. --Sorry I didn't show that. There's always a step or two that aren't critical to the story board and taking the time to photo document absolutely everything really adds to the project time. The important step is to use the tailstock attachment to get the concentricity.

Anonymous said...

Derrick,

how can i get a hold of a bulk fill adapter for my old crosman 112 pistol? Robert Austin TX
rortiz1242@hotmail.com

thanks

Anonymous said...

Very nice,,lots of thinking of what's going on,,would be nice to see a short muzzle break to protect end of barrel with a front post sight on it,,nothing fancy,,no holes around tube that could be considered as suppressor,,our laws here in Canada are very strict,,again you do some very fine work,,master craftman.