Derrick's Crosman 357

Derrick, our Ohio correspondent, sent in pictures and description of his latest project, a Crosman 357. Enjoy!

The brass "medallion" is a Winchester 357 magnum case head. I bored out the primer pocket hole slightly and drilled out the flash hole completely to run the 6-32 grip bolt though it. Also turned down the dia. of the bolt head to fit. Buffed out the frame. Got rid of all the nasty casting marks.





As you know, the 357 left grip clips to co2 cartridge. In it's stock form, it also does a good impression of the Wiggles. I drilled 2 holes in the frame and 2 matching holes in the grip for pins. One pin is glued into the grip, one is glued into the frame.

Virtually zero play when connected.

I chopped a section off the spare 1760 barrel and reduced the breech to match the stock 357 bbl. I think I turned it down to something like 0.312". It's a nice, tight press fit into the rear of the shroud. I left about 1/4" of bbl at the muzzle at full 7/16" diameter for added heft. Turned down the middle of the bbl just slightly so I didn't have to bore the shroud full length. The ID of the shroud in the bbl channel is just slightly less than 7/16. I didn't bother to measure it, I just took a hundredth off the bbl or so.

Now the bbl can't fit though the "fingers" of the rib sight. Chop. Off they go.

I bored the shroud out to 7/16" rather than reduce the bbl diameter. This is also a zero play press fit to the bbl.

I cut the new bbl approx 1" too long to have material to play with. After reducing 1" or so of the the breech end to 0.312", I cut the pellet lead in. Then I reduced the bbl's middle diameter, then set the cylinder gap. Working forward, I was then able to determine how much--if any--muzzle I wanted coming through the front of the shroud.

So, here's where I left the muzzle. I initially left it extended, but wasn't happy with the look. I cut it, faced it and recessed the crown, cold blued it, then got out the JB Non-Embedding Compound and cleaned the bbl. The 1760 barrel rifling was substantially more pronounced than what was in the flimsy stock 357 bbl.

Here's my cylinder washer to fit over the post. Couldn't find a black one. Didn't want to make one. It's the white washer that comes with Uncle Mike's sling studs. It worked perfectly. Thanks Uncle Mike!

I glued it in place with a dab of Gorilla brand super glue. A little dab'll do ya.

I ended up using epoxy to glue the lead weight into the shroud. I then epoxied the bbl into the shroud in the front and rear press fits. The sight rib is also epoxied (Hey, I had it out) to the shroud.

So, I charged it up and the first shot went dead-ass-nuts through the 10 ring on the 10 meter target. I shot several cylinders through it and I think the groups look about half the size there were with the "floating" stock barrel.

Piston Tuning the Daisy 717

I've long wondered whether the Daisy 717 would benefit from some piston tuning. It's hard to get any useful figures for the performance of the stock pistol, as no pellet weights are given for the published velocity of 360 fps (although Pyramyd says both 360 and "up to 380 fps", and the online manual at Pyramyd says 380 fps). So I put a few 7.9 grain RWS Meisterkugeln pellets through one of my old 717's and found a velocity spread of 368-375 fps. This is with the piston adjusted correctly.

The face of the piston has a noticeable casting sprue, and is hardly flat.

The valve face seems flat.

Putting the piston face against the valve face shows that full contact is not being made.

So I faced off the piston (I took off about .010").

Using some hi-spot blue, I tested the piston face against the valve face. Full contact was still not being made.

So I lapped the valve face against some sandpaper, on a surface plate. The valve hole was filled with a plug of paper towel.

After a few minutes of lapping the face was pretty flat.

As you can see, the faces are making much better contact.
So how much of a velocity gain did this produce?
I found I got between 377 and 380 fps, so a gain of around 5-9 fps. Hardly earth shattering, but nice to know a little performance increase had been realized.

Benjamin 317 "Bar-V" Stock Nut and Washer

A kind person sent me the stock locknut and washer for the Benjamin 317.

The new nut, which appears to be brass, and the lock washer. The washer looks exactly like a standard internal toothed lock washer, or rather it is a standard lock washer.
The nut I made on the left, which looks just a little crude compared to the Benjamin.

The assembly restored to stock condition.

The 1377 Project, Pivot Washers

As I mentioned earlier this week, the 1377 project still isn't completed. The pump arm had too much play in the slot at the pivot pin, so I decided to make some Delrin washers to take up that wiggle.

Drilling some Delrin turned down to 1/2"

Parting off a washer. Each one needed to be .019" thick.

Parting left a burr at the hole which was easily trimmed off with an Xacto knife.

I lined up the washers and inserted the pump arm, at which point everything instantly got misaligned.

So I used a tapered drift to line things up again, and reinserted the pivot pin.
Now the wiggle is gone.